we shouldn't let the ukraine get to the eu and the united states and did a civil war in the ukraine, but there are lots of raefl good options leading up to that. i would just cancel in sochi. i wouldn't talk about the planning session. i would cancel it. and i would go into a very aggressive posture on how we hope the ukraine financially, if they can get through their financial troubles, they could survive. >> let's sort of talk big picture. how do you think president obama has been handling relations with russia versus how vladimir putin has been handling relations with the united states? >> i think putin is playing chess and we're playing 's even. if you look at the nuclear negotiations, we got it handed to us. huge mistake especially for our allies in the baltics. when you move down the list in syria, the russians got everything that they needed. they believe they needed in syria. and so they have been running circles around us and i think it's really the naive position on a national security council and the president's advisers that if we just keep giving things to russia, they w